Full list. 632/255 DVD threshold, 985/210 BD.
2016 12/19 – 12/25 Anime DVD List
| Anime Rank | All Rank | Last Rank | Week Sales | Total Sales | #Wks | Title |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 18 | 3,476 | 3,476 | 1 | Bungou Stray Dogs Season 2 v1 (v7) | |
| 2 | 21 | 2,840 | 2,840 | 1 | Kizumonogatari II: Nekketsu-hen | |
| 3 | 26 | 19 | 2,407 | 83,362 | 128 | Tonari no Totoro (2014 re-release) |
| 4 | 27 | 2,316 | 2,316 | 1 | Binan Koukou Chikyuu Bouei-bu LOVE! LOVE! v4 | |
| 5 | 28 | 2,229 | 2,229 | 1 | Natsume Yuujin-chou Go v1 | |
| 7 | 35 | 1,956 | 1,956 | 1 | Kuroko no Basuke Winter Cup Soushuuhen v3 | |
| 8 | 36 | 1,926 | 1,926 | 1 | Tsukiuta. The Animation v4 | |
| 9 | 44 | 5 | 1,642 | 5,770 | 2 | Pokemon The Movie XY&Z: Volcanion to Karakuri no Magearna |
| 11 | 56 | 43 | 1,276 | 5,420 | 5 | Soreike! Anpanman Omocha no Hoshi no Nanda to Runda |
| 12 | 59 | 1,259 | 1,259 | 1 | Mob Psycho 100 v4 | |
| 13 | 60 | 1,249 | 1,249 | 1 | Magic-Kyun! Renaissance v1 | |
| 14 | 62 | 3 | 1,202 | 9,920 | 2 | Touken Ranbu: Hanamaru v1 |
| 15 | 63 | 1,172 | 1,172 | 1 | Jojo no Kimyou na Bouken Diamond wa Kudakenai v7 | |
| 16 | 65 | 1,164 | 1,164 | 1 | Servamp v4 | |
| 18 | 71 | 1,039 | 1,039 | 1 | Strike The Blood II OVA v2 | |
| 19 | 75 | 1,003 | 1,003 | 1 | Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu v7 | |
| 20 | 78 | 18 | 974 | 12,867 | 3 | Kidou Senshi Gundam The Origin v4 |
| 22 | 80 | 54 | 930 | 13,367 | 8 | Crayon Shin-chan: Bakusui! Yumemi World Dai Totsugeki |
| 23 | 85 | 891 | 891 | 1 | Macross Delta v6 | |
| 24 | 86 | 881 | 881 | 1 | Cardfight!! Vanguard G Stride Gate-hen | |
| 25 | 94 | 810 | 810 | 1 | Meitantei Conan Part 11 v6 | |
| 26 | 98 | 790 | 790 | 1 | Masou Gakuen HxH v4 | |
| 27 | 779 | 779 | 1 | Meitantei Conan Part 11 v8 | ||
| 28 | 93 | 764 | 37,950 | 126 | Majo no Takkyuubin (2014 re-release) | |
| 29 | 674 | 674 | 1 | WWW.Working!! v2 | ||
| 30 | 83 | 632 | 26,784 | 94 | Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi (2014 re-release) | |
| 609 | 609 | 1 | ViVid Strike! v1 | |||
| 596 | 596 | 1 | Hibike! Euphonium 2 v1 | |||
| 595 | 595 | 1 | Gakuen Handsome" | |||
| 526 | 526 | 1 | Kochira Katsushikaku Kameari Kouenmae Hashutsujo Best Episode Selection DVD Box | |||
| 485 | 485 | 1 | Neko Pitcher v1 | |||
| 458 | 458 | 1 | Udon no Kuni no Kin'iro Kemari v1 | |||
| 355 | 355 | 1 | Oishinbo DVD Box v1 | |||
| 300 | 300 | 1 | Haikara-san ga Tooru DVD Box | |||
| 279 | 279 | 1 | Lostorage incited WIXOSS v1 | |||
| 269 | 269 | 1 | Shakunetsu no Takkyuu Musume v1 | |||
| 257 | 257 | 1 | Watashi ga Motete Dousunda | |||
| 255 | 255 | 1 | Kariage-kun DVD Box |
| Other releases (concerts etc) | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 43 | 1,650 | 1,650 | 1 | Hatsune Miku Magical Mirai 2016 | ||
| 69 | 1,097 | 1,097 | 1 | Pripara Summer Idol Tour 2016 |
2016 12/19 – 12/25 Anime BD List
| Anime Rank | All Rank | Last Rank | Week Sales | Total Sales | #Wks | Title |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 3 | 30,670 | 30,670 | 1 | Kizumonogatari II: Nekketsu-hen LE | |
| 3 | 5 | 25,788 | 25,788 | 1 | Love Live! Sunshine!! v4 | |
| 5 | 13 | 7,298 | 7,298 | 1 | Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu v7 | |
| 6 | 14 | 7,256 | 7,256 | 1 | Strike The Blood II OVA v2 | |
| 8 | 21 | 5,952 | 5,952 | 1 | Macross Delta v6 | |
| 9 | 22 | 5,861 | 5,861 | 1 | Hibike! Euphonium 2 v1 | |
| 10 | 25 | 5,243 | 5,243 | 1 | Jojo no Kimyou na Bouken Diamond wa Kudakenai v7 | |
| 12 | 31 | 4,412 | 4,412 | 1 | New Game! v4 | |
| 13 | 32 | 4,262 | 4,262 | 1 | ViVid Strike! v1 | |
| 14 | 36 | 3,847 | 3,847 | 1 | Yuusha-Ou GaoGaiGar Final & Grand Glorious Gathering BD Box | |
| 15 | 39 | 3,439 | 3,439 | 1 | Tsukiuta. The Animation v4 | |
| 16 | 40 | 3,417 | 3,417 | 1 | Natsume Yuujin-chou Go v1 | |
| 17 | 42 | 3,240 | 3,240 | 1 | Shirobako BD Box v2 | |
| 18 | 43 | 3,070 | 3,070 | 1 | Dangan Ronpa 3: The End of Kibougamine Gakuen v4 | |
| 19 | 48 | 2,721 | 2,721 | 1 | Bungou Stray Dogs Season 2 v1 (v7) | |
| 20 | 50 | 2,565 | 2,565 | 1 | Shuumatsu no Izetta v1 | |
| 51 | 2,510 | 2,510 | 1 | Masou Gakuen HxH v4 | ||
| 53 | 2,450 | 2,450 | 1 | Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka? BD Box | ||
| 54 | 2,441 | 2,441 | 1 | Mob Psycho 100 v4 | ||
| 55 | 2,437 | 2,437 | 1 | Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya 3rei! v4 | ||
| 56 | 2,216 | 2,216 | 1 | Tales of Zestiria the X | ||
| 57 | 2,176 | 2,176 | 1 | Kuroko no Basuke Winter Cup Soushuuhen v3 | ||
| 58 | 2,163 | 2,163 | 1 | Magic-Kyun! Renaissance v1 | ||
| 59 | 2,114 | 2,114 | 1 | Amanchu! v4 | ||
| 60 | 8 | 1,977 | 43,534 | 3 | Kidou Senshi Gundam the Origin v4 | |
| 61 | 1,918 | 1,918 | 1 | Kizumonogatari II: Nekketsu-hen RE | ||
| 64 | 1,808 | 1,808 | 1 | WWW.Working!! v2 | ||
| 67 | 1,625 | 1,625 | 1 | Rewrite v4 | ||
| 68 | 1,612 | 1,612 | 1 | Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku v1 | ||
| 69 | 1,559 | 1,559 | 1 | Binan Koukou Chikyuu Bouei-bu LOVE! LOVE! v4 | ||
| 70 | 1,558 | 1,558 | 1 | Kuromukuro v3 | ||
| 72 | 1,523 | 1,523 | 1 | Active Raid 2nd v3 | ||
| 75 | 1,340 | 1,340 | 1 | Pretty Rhythm Rainbow Live BD Box v2 | ||
| 82 | 1,223 | 1,223 | 1 | Long Riders! v1 | ||
| 86 | 1,170 | 1,170 | 1 | Hachimitsu to Clover I & II BD Box | ||
| 87 | 1,165 | 1,165 | 1 | Kono Bijutsubu ni wa Mondai ga Aru! v4 | ||
| 92 | 1,083 | 1,083 | 1 | Futsuu no Joshikousei ga Locodol Yatte Mita. BD Box | ||
| 93 | 2 | 1,070 | 11,428 | 2 | Touken Ranbu: Hanamaru v1 | |
| 97 | 1,022 | 1,022 | 1 | Shakunetsu no Takkyuu Musume v1 | ||
| 98 | 1,008 | 1,008 | 1 | Girlish Number v1 | ||
| 99 | 1,003 | 1,003 | 1 | Okusama ga Seitokaichou!+! v1 | ||
| 901 | 901 | 1 | Lostorage incited WIXOSS v1 | |||
| 896 | 896 | 1 | Hataraku Maou-sama! BD Box | |||
| 788 | 788 | 1 | Stella no Mahou v1 | |||
| 698 | 698 | 1 | Black Lagoon BD Box (seasons 1-2) | |||
| 686 | 686 | 1 | Hanayamata BD Box | |||
| 658 | 658 | 1 | Amagami SS Solo Collection: Ayatsuji Tsukasa | |||
| 652 | 652 | 1 | Amagami SS Solo Collection: Nanasaki Ai | |||
| 642 | 642 | 1 | Oishinbo BD Box v1 | |||
| 586 | 586 | 1 | Accel World OVA | |||
| 534 | 534 | 1 | Amagami SS Solo Collection: Morishima Haruka | |||
| 506 | 506 | 1 | Meitantei Conan: Conan to Ebizou Kabuki Juuhachiban Mystery | |||
| 493 | 493 | 1 | Grisaia no Kajitsu BD Box | |||
| 438 | 438 | 1 | Amagami SS Solo Collection: Tanamachi Kaoru | |||
| 421 | 421 | 1 | Amagami SS Solo Collection: Sakurai Rihoko | |||
| 407 | 407 | 1 | Haikara-san ga Tooru BD Box | |||
| 385 | 385 | 1 | Udon no Kuni no Kin'iro Kemari v1 | |||
| 346 | 346 | 1 | Watashi ga Motete Dousunda v1 | |||
| 333 | 333 | 1 | Kidou Senshi Gundam Thunderbolt: December Sky (4K Ultra HD) | |||
| 332 | 332 | 1 | Amagami SS Solo Collection: Nakata Sae | |||
| 299 | 299 | 1 | Zettai Karen Children BD Box | |||
| 210 | 210 | 1 | Soreyuke! Uchuu Senkan Yamamoto Youko BD Box |
| Other releases (concerts etc) | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 15 | 7,056 | 7,056 | 1 | The Idolm@ster Million Live! 3rd Live Tour: Believe My Dre@m!! 04@Osaka Day 2 | ||
| 16 | 6,986 | 6,986 | 1 | The Idolm@ster Million Live! 3rd Live Tour: Believe My Dre@m!! 04@Osaka Day 1 | ||
| 18 | 6,522 | 6,522 | 1 | Hatsune Miku Magical Mirai 2016 | ||
| 3,756 | 3,756 | 1 | Uchida Aya Complete Live: Colors in Nippon Budoukan |
Note, sales seem slightly high across the board relative to previous volumes, so you should probably expect smaller than usual wk2s for these shows next week.
Fall update:
Euphonium s2 v1 sells 5861/596, total 6,457. 14.4/28.5% overestimated. Event ticket.
Stray Dogs s2 v1 sells 2721/3476, total 6,197. 103.7%/29.0% underestimated. Event ticket. Split cour series, but maintaining volume numbering so technically this is volume 7.
Natsume s5 v1 sells 3417/2229, total 5,646. 2.5%/7.4% overestimated. Event ticket. This is definitely not going to be a 9-10k season like the others, that’s for sure. It’ll drop by about half.
ViVid Strike v1 sells 4262/609, total 4,871. 80.5/8.9% underestimated. Event ticket. Glad to see this beating its estimates by a ton like Nanoha ViVid did. And selling literally 10 discs less. If a wk2 (please get a wk2) can put it over 5k and v2-4’s OVAs can prevent a sharp drop, I’ll at least have one import over 3k this season.
Magic-Kyun v1 sells 2163/1249, total 3,412. 58.1%/47.6% underestimated. Event ticket.
Izetta v1 sells 2,565 as a BD-only release. 7.9% overestimated. Event ticket. I expected a little lower since it seemed so Amazon heavy so I guess this is better than anticipated… but still bad. 2k avg incoming.
Mahoiku v1 sells 1,612 BDs, DVDs do not rank. 50.0% underestimated. Event ticket. Did not expect such a heavy underestimation, though it still didn’t do it much good.
Takkyuu Musume v1 sells 1022/269, total 1,291. Event ticket. What a(n expected) crime, this show is absolutely brilliant.
Long Riders v1 sells 1,223 BDs, DVDs do not rank. 2.4% overestimated. Event ticket.
Lostorage v1 sells 901/279, total 1,180. 18.1%/47.8% overestimated. Event ticket. Going to be way down from Selector.
Girlish Number v1 sells 1,008 BDs, DVDs do not rank. 5.4% overestimated. Event ticket. Ah Chitose, even with a good show (unlike your in-universe Kuusure), it’s still a bomb. =(
Okusama s2 v1 sells 1,003 BDs, DVDs do not rank. 35.0% overestimated. Event ticket. That’s 2.5x what v1wk1 sold for s1, though s1 also had a long tail and averaged 1,364 which should end up being higher than this one.
Udon no Kuni v1 sells 385/458, total 843. 0.5% under/30.1% overestimated. Event ticket.
Stella no Mahou v1 sells 788 BDs, DVDs do not rank. 30.0% underestimated. Event ticket.
Watashi ga Motete v1 sells 346/257, total 603. 0.6% under/14.0% overestimated. Event ticket.
Gakuen Handsome sells 595 as A DVD-only one-shot release. 44.4% overestimated.
www.Working v2 sells 1808/674, total 2,482. Down from 5.7k v1wk1. v1 didn’t have an event ticket but did have the footage from a previous event, so a big drop was expected.
Tourabu v1 adds 1070/1202, total 21,348.
Summer update:
Zestiria sells 2,216 as a one-shot BD-only box. 48.4% underestimated. Event ticket. Presumably it was underestimated despite being a box because Amazon only sold an Amazon-exclusive version, which means no discount, which means way less incentive to buy from Amazon than usual for BD boxes.
LL Sunshine v4 sells 25,788 as a BD-only release.
Tsukiuta v4 sells 3439/1926, total 5,365. Highest wk1 by a decent margin. Not sure if we’ll see a smaller wk2 or if this vol has something special.
New Game v4 sells 4,412 BDs, DVDs maybe in the full list or a leak.
Boueibu s2 v4 sells 1557/2316, total 3,875.
Mob Psycho v4 sells 2441/1259, total 3,700.
Masou Gakuen v4 sells 2510/790, total 3,300.
Dangan Ronpa 3 v4, final volume, sells 3,070. The split Mirai/Zetsubou DVD singles come out until late February but there’s no reason to expect any of those to rank. This is the last of the four BD boxes. Series average: 3,458. Down from 4,512 for the original.
Illya s4 v4 sells 2,437 BDs, DVDs do not rank.
Amanchu v4 sells 2,114. BD-only release.
Rewrite v4 sells 1,625 BDs, DVDs do not rank.
Servamp v4 sells 1,164 DVDs, BDs in the full list.
Active Raid s2 v3, final volume, sells 1,523 BDs, DVDs do not rank. Series average: 1,642. No real difference from the first cour’s 1,875.
Konobi v4 sells 1,165 BDs, DVDs do not rank.
Past seasons:
Re:Zero v7 sells 7298/1003, total 8,301.
Macross Delta v6 sells 5952/891, total 6,843.
Jojo pt4 v7 sells 5243/1172, total 6,415.
Kuromukuro v3 sells 1,558. BD-only release.
OVAs, Movies, Boxsets etc:
Kizumonogatari Movie 2 sells 30670/1918 BDs, 2840 DVDs, total 35,428.
Strike The Blood II OVA v2 sells 7256/1039, total 8,295.
Kurobas Winter Cup v3 sells 2176/1956, total 4,132.
Shirobako BD Box v2 sells 3,240. Decent bump from v1. Average 3,158 for the box release.
Gochiusa s1 BD Box sells 2,450. Pretty good.
Hachimitsu to Clover s1-2 BD Box sells 1,170. Contains both seasons.
Locodol BD Box sells 1,083. I guess I’m glad it even hit four digits considering it averaged under 3k to start with.
Maou-sama BD Box sells 896.
Black Lagoon s1-2 BD Box sells 698. The previous BD box in 2013 (also s1-2) sold 2463 so the total is 3,161.
Hanayamata BD Box sells 686.
Amagami SS Solo Collection discs average 506. Each disc is a BD-only release containing the SS and SS+ episodes featuring them. As for how I’m counting it, it’s as a BD singles re-release. This is more or less like the BD boxes released as singles, as those were grouped by girl too.
Grisaia s1 BD Box sells 493.
Zettai Karen BD Box sells 299.
Accel World OVAs sell 586 as a BD-only release. These are the two EX OVAs previously bundled with the games. They were also bundled in the BD box that released in December 2015.
Also, for my own reference because Miku is important:
Hatsune Miku Magical Mirai 2016 sells 6522/1650, total 8,172. Better wk1 than 2015, in fact only 6 discs below wk2 for 2015, which is nice to see. We might not get a wk2 since it’s coming out at a much busier time though, and it’s usually pretty front-loaded.
Upcoming Releases for 2016 12/26 – 2017 01/01
2016/12/28 B-Project v5
2016/12/28 ONE PIECE Film Gold
2016/12/28 ONE PIECE Film Gold Special
2016/12/28 Show By Rock!!# v1
2016/12/30 Drifters
2016/12/30 Sousei no Onmyouji v7
2016/12/30 Taboo Tattoo v4
2016/12/30 Yuuri!!! on Ice v1
> DVDs maybe in the full list or a leak
http://WWW.Working!! Vol.2 is ranked 111th in the DVD list, so we won’t be getting anything new in the Top100 DVD list, only possible missed Biz leaks.
From that Chinese forum:
综合BD周榜
50位 2565
85位 1175
130位 727
165位 454
278位 207
288位 197
综合DVD周榜
111位 674
232位 303
I’ve noticed you’re really smart and knowledgable about anime music stuff, how true is this article about YoI OST sales? (I saw it linked on twitter) I really don’t know how to read Oricon… http://mantan-web.jp/article/20161227dog00m200010000c.html
I guess what I’m really asking is how good is 45k week1 compared to other anime OST? I know nothing of averages for late night anime OST.
It’s uber mega insanely good, to use a scientific term.
Most anime OSTs barely register at all.
Oh. Thats encouraging. After the ED, I was a little worried. It is a really good soundtrack though. Japanese twitter seemed really excited about it (and have been comparing it to FMAs OST sales? For some reason?) but twitter is twitter so I wanted to check around.
Wow. I know it’s a good number but “uber mega insanely good” really puts it into perspective.
So glad to see the OST is a big success. Really looking forward to the DVD/BD sales next Tuesday. I hope it exceeds expectation.
It’s uber mega insanely good all right!
The OST is amazing. I’m planning on buying it on iTunes since the physical copy wouldn’t really do me much good plus I have other merch to order.
@Ejc: Do you also happen to know what’s the difference between the solo live ticket that being sold with the new Utapri’s Quartet Night newest cd single with those on the usual anime’s bd/dvd vol 1-2? cuz the sales of only that particular cd single is exceptionally high from the usual Utapri cd singles. None of their cd music sales so far have ever reach that number before.
Is it the same like the Macross Delta ones? How will that affect on the vol 1-2 of the anime’s bd/dvd event ticket?
It had a premium event ticket which is why it sold so much.
It is for a March 2017 live concert with QUARTET NIGHT, while Vol.1/2 of UtaPri S4 BDs is for the 6th UtaPri live in May 2017. It will have minimal effect on Vol.1/2 of UtaPri S4, but Vol.1/2 will most likely not sell as high as the QUARTET NIGHT CD due to the higher cost of the BD compared to a CD, and the ranking performance at Animate.
Macross Delta is a different case, as the event tickets for the 1st/2nd Wulkure albums are exactly the same as on Vol.1/2 of the anime.
^Ok…thanks for the replies guys (CNL899 and Ejc).
Additions from this forum thread:
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4916542095?pn=5
综合BD周榜
100位 985
105位 901
综合DVD周榜
288位 255
Absolutely brutal TOP100 BD threshold of almost 1,000.
These thresholds are such garbage, and more reason for me to hate Christmas.
Awoo natsume )”:
Take heart. It IS season 5. A shoujo anime with five seasons? It’s amazing that it made it this far plus it’s getting a season 6. Natsume is a flagship series for LaLa, the magazine where it’s serialized, so don’t worry.
>Girlish Number v1 sells 1,008 BDs, DVDs do not rank. 5.4% overestimated. Event ticket. Ah Chitose, even with a good show (unlike your in-universe Kuusure), it’s still a bomb. =(
Such a shame, I really liked the show too. I really don’t understand how it could so poorly; it seemed to have a fairly passionate and vocal fanbase in Japan, and it seemed to have gotten a good amount of promotion.
>Izetta v1 sells 2,565 as a BD-only release. 7.9% overestimated. Event ticket. I expected a little lower since it seemed so Amazon heavy so I guess this is better than anticipated… but still bad. 2k avg incoming.
I feel pretty sorry for May’n. For whatever reason, for the past few years most of the shows she’s sang theme songs for have bombed saleswise. M3 and Taboo Tattoo were poor sellers, and now this.
Also, where’s the latest volume of Qualidea Code?
*could do so poorly
I don’t understand why you thought that Girlish Number would [i]not[/i] sell poorly. The show mocked otaku and the anime industry at large and there was no male protagonist with a harem to self insert into like the author’s mega-hit Oregairu. If the purpose of Girlish Number was to sell then it should have followed the established formula.
There is no success formula. There is no success formula. There is no success formula. There is no success formula. There is no success formula. There is no success formula. There is no success formula. There is no success formula. There is no success formula. There is no success formula.
Can you name a successful light novel anime adaptation with male otaku (which was obviously Girlish Number’s target) that does not feature a male protagonist? Because I cannot, especially recently. Oregairu, Toradora, Chuunibyou, Infinite Stratos, Sword Art Online, Re:Zero, Index, Shana, High School DXD, Monogatari, Haruhi, Horizon… and I’m spent. What do all these high selling light novel adaptations feature?
They feature characteristics that are also shared by a ton of series that sold like crap. I mean just the small list of examples goes back over ten years and covers a wide variety of genres and premises. So my point is, turning Girlish Number into Boyish Number wouldn’t have been a “formula for success”. Statistically speaking it would have had almost as high a chance of selling poorly, because statistically speaking most shows sell poorly, regardless of any individual trait they have.
It’s absolutely true, and I’ve been complaining about it for some time, that shows with male protagonists make up most of the hits. Men prefer shows with male leads, and women prefer shows with male leads (albeit for different reasons), and that makes things really tough for female leads outside of slice of life anime. We haven’t had a non-idol-based female-led anime average 20k or more since Girls und Panzer, which was four years ago now. And even female idols are utterly dominated by just two franchises.
But my eye instinctively twitches when I see phrases like “success formula” because I see it all the time in bad arguments about what sells and what doesn’t. If all you were saying was “if it had a male protagonist it would have had a somewhat better but still probably very low chance to sell well” then I would actually agree, since that’s how I feel. But I didn’t read as heavy a caveat into your original post. If I misread it, fair enough.
My caveat was exactly what I said. That if the purpose of Girlish Number was to sell to male otaku then it should have had a male protagonist with a harem. Instead of having Chitose be the main POV make it her brother/producer who we now see as the producer of Chitose, Yae, and Koto. That’s 3 potential love interests right there. Throw in Momoka’s producer and there’s 4.
Do you honestly think Oregairu would have been a hit if it didn’t have a male protagonist with a selection of love interests that otaku could self insert into?
Like you, I wish that there were higher selling shows featuring female protagonists. After a long time thinking I remembered that Jintai sold about 5k, which is pretty much the only light novel adaptation I can think of with a female protagonist that cleared that bar. And considering that Watashi is by far and away my favorite light novel protagonist it’s rather depressing for me. Nonetheless, I don’t let my personal taste get in the way when talking sales. I never said that Girlish Number certainly would have been a big hit if it had a male protagonist. Only that I knew from the start that it would sell poorly because there was no male protagonist (and the show relentlessly mocked otaku and the industry at large). Those are two very, very different assertions.
Are there any harems selling well this season though?
What harems are there this season? I’m not watching any. As far as this week’s list goes Re:Zero still seems to be selling much better than any non-idol product and that’s about as harem as it gets ain’t it?
There was last week and there is next week with nonidol shows that (probably will) sell much better than ReZero. Maybe they should have gave Chitose a harem haha.
Honestly, if making shows I like viable requires turning them into something I don’t want to watch, it’s damned if I do and damned if I don’t. Since turning it into a harem show would have only increased its chances from “totally definitely dead” to “almost definitely dead”, I’m pretty damn glad we got what we did instead. It also would have made for a completely different show so the comparison almost feels moot.
Like, Shirobako (a non-harem anime with an adult female protagonist) has outsold every single remotely harem show that debuted after it (so excluding Monogatari, which has been running forever). Harem just isn’t that big of a deal. I’d say it’s more a powerful genre trope in print form than animated form.
Oh I was joking! I dont actually think that making it a reverse harem would have improved chances much (Even UtaPri has been moving away from its reverse harem roots. Cute boys doing cute things is what female disc buyers seem to want.) Drifters, UtaPri, and YoI were aiming for completely different audiences. I don’t know what audience GN was aiming for (I don’t watch it and I’m not familiar enough with male otaku to comment) but I seriously doubt it mixed much with the big sellers this season. There are a lot of shows feeling the burn of so many female otaku shows, but I don’t think GN is one of them.
Compared to just a few years ago there are barely any harem anime being made at all this year. Maybe Occultic;Nine counts but barely, and that’s all from this season and that’s it. We have a few reverse-harem shows this season though. We’ve had a few since, but it’s almost like Nisekoi ushered in the end of the Harem as we knew it haha.
So we mostly agree then. You’ll have to forgive me for being really touchy about anything that even potentially sounds like “if you do X you’ll sell” when there’s always more examples of X selling badly than of X selling well. I still read a lot of “fanservice sells” comments and it always does my head in.
Only thing I do want to point out is that Girlish Number is probably better thought of as a media-mix project than a traditional light novel adaptation. The whole project was conceived at once, with the novel serialized starting in March, a manga in April, and the anime of course starting in October for the Fall season. First full volume of the novel was only 2.5 months before the anime started. I think it’s also not categorized under typical bunko format and thus not reported by the usual Oricon LN rankings.
So I’m much less focused on the “light novel” origins of it, because for the anime audience it’s honestly more like an original anime. In which case I’d think it might have hoped to capture more of a Shirobako audience than an Oregairu audience. Well, not that it’s a binary decision.
Or even a New Game audience.
So basically we just need to clone Tsutomu Mizushima and then we’ll see an explosion of good-selling shows with female protgaonists.
If he can reclaim the Garupan or Shirobako touch, anyway. We’ll have to see if his next project, whatever it is, performs more along the lines of Mayoiga (i.e. deaddeaddead).
Whoever keeps having Mizushima direct horror/suspense/thriller (Blood C, Another, Mayoiga) has absolutely no idea what they are doing. xxxHolic worked for Mizushima since it was more laid back. But if you look at the stuff he’s done: Dokuro/Punie-chan, Hare+Guu, Shin-chan, Genshiken, Legend of Koizumi, Ika-musume, Oofuri, Joshiruaku, along with what has been mentioned already, the dude thrives on comedy and character interaction. I really, really hope that they realize that (again) after the shit that was Mayoiga.
With that many releases the thresholds are high
Hope w2 for izetta
Long Riders sold more than Ping Pong Girls with all the quality :(
So essentially the only thing the male otaku has to show for in the Fall season is Euphonium S2 with 5681+. Good lord, they need to band together better and evolve their tastes in female-led shows.
It’s more like male fans are spending less on physical anime discs than before. It is known that the Love Live fanbase had a male to female fan ratio of 56.6:43.4 in 2014, and we have seen that Love Live Sunshine has sold considerably less discs than Love Live 2nd Season when we compare the non-event ticket volumes.
Maybe it’s due to Aqours not being in the same league as μ’s is, or the 1st Sunshine Season isn’t as good as the 2nd Love Live Season? Or maybe it is the reason I cited, which is that male fans seem to be spending less money on physical anime discs than before.
We can’t deny that sales are much lower across the board in 2016, especially for anime with a significant male fan backing or around 50:50 male to female backing, while anime with a significant female fan backing are doing much better than in the past, especially since Osomatsu-san’s breakout in 2015.
How do you know male otaku arent buying Haikyuu!!? Or that females arent buying Euphonium?
Doesn’t Drifters have a big male backing? Its coming out next week and should do better than Hibike.
^The male otaku in Japan will bought anything that attracts them, you know….it’s just mean this season there’s nothing that interest them (maybe except for Drifters). Beside they already spend their money on Love Live and Monogatari last season, and a whole bunch of ovas or movies (Zaregoto, GuP, StB II, etc).
There’s plenty of other fujoshi and female otaku targeted series that also bombed you know, not all of them are selling like Osomatsu, YOI, Utapri, etc. It just happen that this season is the fujoshi season, while they’re pretty quite last season and in spring (B-Project had a huge drop after the event ticket). I mean as a fujoshi myself, it’s not like I also have unlimited budget to bought all of those BD’s so I have to be picky and only select the ones that I trully love the most just like several of my fujoshi friends who happens to be staying in Japan at the moment.
Maybe the male otaku will spend their money again when there’re other anime that equivalent of Eva, Bake, Madoka, Love Live, GuP, etc in terms of enjoyment and quality for them. Perhaps it’s about time the western otaku (other otaku outside Japan start showing their support for their favorite series)>_<
I doubt that’s going to happen though. Many Westerners already complain about how much an entire anime series costs in the West, so I just can’t see how they would suddenly start importing straight from Japan when discs are many times more expensive there. Some of them just resort to pirating content, even if discs in the West are so dirt cheap.
I don’t agree with the argument I’ve been seeing lately that male otaku “just don’t like any of the shows airing”. There are more anime than ever, and total anime industry revenue in 2015 was higher than it’s been since the peak era of 2004-2006, despite video discs being less than half what they were in 2005-2007 (see the second graph on page 2).
It’s not just the growth in overseas streaming. Sure that’s huge, but mostly that’s making up lost ground from the crash in overseas disc sales that happened after 2006. 2015 is the first year that overseas revenue caught back up to (and surpassed) the level we were at in 2005-2006, primarily thanks to China which saw a huge increase.
Funds are being shifted away from video discs, and this seems to be happening among male fans faster than female. But the funds are being shifted to other forms of entertainment within the anime industry writ large. This means people must still like the series, but they aren’t interacting with those in the same ways. This makes it incredibly difficult for us to tell which series are doing okay and which aren’t, outside of the big hits.
And yes the AJA report is 2015 data, not yet 2016 data, but the industry didn’t radically change in content (and fans in taste) over the course of a single year. It’s possible the number could go down for 2016 (though we won’t know until well into 2017) but it’s risen every year since 2009.
Maybe male otaku are just conforming to the tastes of female/fujoshi/fudanshi otaku?
This is a funny idea, but I think its very unlikely. Plus, most popularity polls (which I know are inaccurate) show the popular female shows as being mostly exclusively popular to fenales. Maybe they are just spending money elsewhere?
The comment was kind of a joke, lmao.
As for your serious response, that’s probably what it is. They’re probably just buying other merchandise or saving up money for something.
Though I do wonder if theres some component of the opposite happening. If female otaku are abandoning the traditionally male shows they supported for new shows aimed at them.
For every YOI, you have Cheer Danshi!, All Out!, Days, Nanbaka and…let’s see Trickster too, to a certain degree, I guess. It is true that female otaku and fujoshi have been buying stuff but there are still lots of shows that are popular which they like but can’t buy.
Next Week! We will see first week sell of Yuri!!! on ICE already.I’m exciting very much,Can this series to pass 30K in first week?The time so slow.
I certainly hope it does 30k. I wanted to buy some new merch but it sold out in half a day! Grr. Have to wait for new merch now. I also wanted to get Spoon 2Di but it got sold out EVEN BEFORE THE ACTUAL RELEASE DATE.
I’ve also heard rumors that some stores which had the discs early like Animate have already sold out.
ToukenRanbu fell off the bd list fast. Thought it would have a bit more presence.
Only because the threshold is massive this week. It had a pretty good DVD wk2, so I’m expecting upwards of 2k BD wk2 in the full list.
I suppose Magical Girl Raising Project v1 sold very poorly too, such a shame :(
Can’t wait for next week, I feel like I’m going to get heart attack for YOI sales T_T
Same here! >___<
Ahhhh!
Anyone here knows if Quartet Night’s (from Utapri) latest single is the best first-week sales (107,765) of any anime-related song? Thanks.
Boosted by a highly sought-after event ticket for sure but more than 100k in its first week is still incredibly impressive. I know Osomatsu san’s EDs didn’t have this kind of numbers but not as sure about Love Live, K-ON, IM@S etc that might’ve achieved a similar feat.
Also wonder if this will have an impact on Utapri’s BD/DVD sales. Quartet Night’s solo concert has a different appeal of course, but fans of the series are already bleeding so much money even before the first vol of Season 4 is released.
A number of others debuted over 100k, even without event tickets. The Shingeki OP debuted at 129,110. A bunch of LL CDs presumably opened over 100k as well. There would be more if we included mainstream tie-ins but that’s not really the same thing. K-ON! never debuted above 100k (or even 90k) but racked up sales over a very long tail.
Oh I should’ve been more specific and said “seiyuu-related” songs (voice actors)! Obviously if there’s a mainstream tie-in like Shingeki’s or the likes of Arashi and AKB48 then 100k wouldn’t be out of the ordinary.
So it seems like Love Live did have a few songs that debuted with 100k then. Suspected they’d be the one if there are any. Thanks.
^Just want to add something’s statement a bit…….Yup both Shingeki OP and also Eva OP had fantastic numbers without event ticket and also Macross Frontier if I’m not mistaken, then ofc all those mainstream artists tie-in like Bump of Chicken with Sangatsu no Lion+Kekkai Sensen OP, etc (these mainstream artists obviously on a different level). I also need to check first on some of Gundam Seed songs, but basically those the ones that I remember of the top off my head so far.
I need to look first but I remember that Eva OP had a very fantastic numbers according to Ejc (maybe around 300-500K total…I forgot the exact number) and Shingenki is practically topping 2013 chart above Valvrave OP with a total of around 250K+ (Link Horizon definetely not mainstream artist, so that’s obviously more because of the Shingeki brand) and I’m pretty sure the Sawano’s ost also sold around 50K+ at the time. All of those I mention are without event ticket, and regarding Love Live (especially µ’s) they also had plenty singles above 100K but I’m not sure which one that had event ticket or not (Ejc is more knowledgeable about this).
Yeah Shingek’s OST got to 64,924, which is the mark to beat for YOI if it wants to claim the top late night OST, at least in the last few years (back to 2010).
Bakemonogatari’s Songs&Soundtracks release sold 58,395 so that’s another milestone to aim for.
There are albums that have sold more, but they’re all vocal albums or OP/ED collections, not OSTs with BGM. Bake’s S&S was both an OP/ED collection and OST so it’s debatable how you want to count it.
Hmmm… I went back to KEROTV to check and it seems like Love Live’s biggest first-week sales is MOMENT RING (at 96,479). Not sure if the site’s data is complete (I don’t have Oricon subscription unfortunately) but if that indeed is the case, then Love Live would fall short of 100k. Not sure if there are any other seiyuu-related songs (IM@S? Macross? Or maybe Haruhi?) that sold this many but if you or anybody else know any, do let me know. Thanks.
Love Live sales: http://www20.atwiki.jp/keroro00innovator/pages/1123.html
Kero uses Oricon so it should match. And yeah it looks like they did top out in mid-90s wk1. I suppose there hasn’t been a single featuring seiyuu over 100k wk1 without an event ticket then, because only LL or K-ON! could have done that.
Got it, thanks. I guess all that screaming coming from my Japanese twitter TL is warranted then lol
I suspect after the success of both Quartet Night and Walkure (Macross Delta), event-ticket CDs (for live concerts) are going to increasingly become a norm? Think this is a relatively new monetization model? If Quartet Night can manage 100k in week 1, imagine what the likes of STARISH or any other popular anime idols can do…
I don’t pay enough attention to CD sales to say if it’s an experiment or something that’s already proven and in full swing. Depending on the number of events you’re holding, it makes sense to not bank everything on DVD/BD tickets. On the other hand, you need to sell like 4-6 CD tickets to equal one BD ticket, revenue-wise. So which is going to put you ahead is a tricky question. Did Macross Delta make more by splitting its ticket boost with its CDs? Maybe? I don’t know.
By my calculation, the combined revenue coming from Macross Delta’s two event-ticket albums (albums are more expensive than singles) would add about 12k to its BD/DVD average (assuming 202,723 albums sold so far). That would bump its average from maybe 9k to 21k? So I guess the math could work out…
Utapri’s a different case since Quartet Night will be putting together a solo concert (separate event from the BD/DVD) – and they’re holding just one, at a very small venue of only 5000 (Seriously? What were the event planners thinking?).
IM@S SideM (which obviously doesn’t have an anime yet) have also done something similar with their CDs (didn’t sell anywhere close to 100k though). So for now I guess you could say it’s a monetization model worth exploring and in all likelihood, even working?
If I were in JPN Id be so mad to not get a ticket, I guess id be one of the people to buy multiple cds and bds… Litrally the only reason why I want to go to JPN is just to see UtaPri concerts live (so many of my fav VAs are in all their groups)….okay Id also go just to see KENN live in something, hes my favorite.
Didn’t Utapri s3 screw fans pretty hard too? Like 60k+ sold (likely a good deal more considering Oricon undercounting) for maybe a 15k arena or whatever?
Doesn’t stop morons like me from trying though. Not even sure why I let them get away with this but I just love my boys way too much. And even as my chances of getting a ticket dwindle (with the kind of obnoxious numbers Quartet Night keeps putting up, sold another 8k in just the last two days), I am still very happy and genuinely glad for them… it’s almost like I’m stuck in some kind of abusive marriage with Utapri’s producers.
Hope you’re looking forward to IDOLiSH7 next year then! KENN’s great as Tamaki and there’s almost certainly going to be concert events coming up. Just hope it gets a decent studio and if it’s going to be one of the three that’s worked their music videos, please let it be either BONES or Production IG (and not NAZ).
The one late-night anime related group I can think of that has sold >100K in week 1 is K-ON!’s Houkago Tea Time, with their Houkago Tea Time II album (127,367 week 1, 204,606 total after 35 weeks). I think this one had no sales doping on it.
None of Love Live! μ’s’ CDs have ever had any event tickets on them (this is different with Aqours, but those are Mini Live event tickets, not major live event tickets), so it cannot be fairly compared with UtaPri or Idolmaster who have had event tickets bundled on their highest selling CDs. MOMENT RING did have a mobile game serial code bundled on it, but that hardly did anything to sales, because the 3rd Movie single “僕たちはひとつの光／Future style” sold 96,150 (compared to MOMENT RING’s 96,479) week 1 and it did not have any sales doping at all.
Not to mention that the Love Live! Movie sold > 200K copies in week 1 and had an event ticket bundled for the Final Live at Tokyo Dome in March/April 2016. This BD is many times more expensive than a CD, so what’s to say that the same thing could’ve happened if it was bundled on a CD instead? One other thing to note is that Love Live has a 1 serial code is valid per person policy for the lottery, ever since 5th live concert, so I don’t think there was much repeat buying expect for people who did not read the fine print for the lottery.
I will have to look further back to see if there are any late-night anime related groups that have done better than Houkago Tea Time, but i’d go with them for now.
Oh you’re right! That indeed does look like a seiyuu-performed album/single that sold more than 100k in week1 and it was all the way back in November 2010. So in the 2010s decade only two has managed this feat so far and without an event ticket just one. That’s good to know, thanks.
K-ON Houkago II: http://www20.atwiki.jp/keroro00innovator/pages/46.html
SnK’s week one was 36k so YoI has a good start at least. Who knows what legs it will have.
CDs have significantly longer tails than DVD/BD so I’d say its chances are very high. It’ll probably add like 10k next week, which won’t leave it with very far to go.
This is a weird question, but are digitally bought CDs not included? Because Oricon reported YoI being #1 digital album of the wrrk and selling 3,248 copies. Don’t they cost the same as physical sales?
As far as I know, the normal Oricon weekly CD sales reports you see are just that, CDs. If they track digital, it’s separate and not included in any of the numbers I’ve mentioned here.
Yeah this http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-01-02/yuri-on-ice-soundtrack-ranks-no.1-in-digital-sales-in-1st-week/.110567 seems to agree because it lists the other number as just physical sales
It looks like Re: zero might still be able to reach that 10K average. If it does, it will be the only spring 2016 show to do so.
i don’t think so,but i wish that
The only trouble it might have is that the yearly rankings, where the extra discs to push it over the line would come from, will only be useful for vols 1-6. 7-9 will count under the 2017 rankings. The soonest we’d see them is mid-2017 in the mid-year rankings. If those thresholds are too high, then it might be the yearly data in January 2018.
So if the additions to 1-6 aren’t enough to do it (especially if 7-9 drag it slightly under 10k), it could be a looooong wait until January 2018 until we find out for sure.
Is there a reason for Zestiria to be sold as a one shot box? Did they expect it to perform far better? Are those sales rather bad or is it expected considering the high price of the box?
Typically the total MSRP of a series is roughly the same, whether it gets released in 6, 4, 3, 2, or 1 parts. So a 2.2k average in a box is roughly equivalent to the same average across six volumes. So whether it’s a box or not doesn’t fundamentally change the total revenue calculations.
Why might you release in a box? Hard to say, may simply come down to the disc publisher having some market research that indicates that a box release is going to be favored by the particular demographic they’re targeting for the show. Or maybe they thought sales would drop off pretty badly from one volume to the next if they released it in singles, and releasing it all at once gets people to pay the full amount up front. Or maybe the publisher simply wanted to consolidate resources into printing, marketing, and shipping one release rather than six because it just fit their schedule better.
Box releases sometimes carry the stigma of being for “throwaway releases” that the publisher doesn’t think will sell much. I believe this mostly comes from the fact that most straight-to-box releases have been for non-otaku-y shows that were never expected to sell much on disc due to their viewing demographic, like Kaiji or Bakuman, or shows aimed at even more mainstream audiences like Fuyu no Sonata. But I’m not sure that view always applies to late night anime released in boxsets. Fate/Zero was huge after all.
I don’t know what the production committee’s expectations for disc sales were. I can say that 2.2k isn’t good, but whether it’s bad is an open question. I’d err on the side of this being a disappointment, but I can’t know what the committee was intending.
2016 Oricon Yearly Top 30 Overall Sales Ranking (2015/12/14～2016/12/11)
Note: This includes sales from Anime BD/DVD, Music BD/DVD/CD, Light Novels/Books, and Manga. This doesn’t include other parts of a franchise such as mobile game sales, Box Office revenue, merchandise sales, etc. Series most affected by this are the large franchises, such as Kimi no Na wa., ONE PIECE, Gundam, Love Live!, etc.
Note2: Love Live! includes Sunshine’s sales, while Idolmaster includes Cinderella Girls, Million Live, other spin-offs, and Side-M.
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