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2016 10/24 – 10/30 Anime DVD List

Anime Rank All Rank Last Rank Week Sales Total Sales #Wks Title
1 2 23,733 23,733 1 Meitantei Conan: Junkoku no Nightmare LE
2 3 8,772 8,772 1 Meitantei Conan: Junkoku no Nightmare RE
3 7 5,991 5,991 1 Zutto Mae Kara Suki Deshita: Kokuhaku Jikkou Iinkai
4 11 3,055 3,055 1 B-Project v3
5 12 2,910 2,910 1 Kubikiri Cycle: Aoiro Savant to Zaregototsukai v1
6 15 2,100 2,100 1 Youkai Watch v5
7 16 1,911 1,911 1 Servamp v2
8 18 1,836 1,836 1 Mob Psycho 100 v2
9 19 1,711 1,711 1 Kuroko no Basuke Winter Cup Soushuuhen v2
10 22 1,527 1,527 1 Bungou Stray Dogs v5
11 24 1,505 1,505 1 Tsukiuta. The Animation v2
12 28 1,219 1,219 1 Jojo no Kimyou na Bouken Diamond wa Kudakenai v5
13 29 1,195 1,195 1 Macross Delta v4
14 31 1,159 1,159 1 ONE PIECE Heart of Gold LE
15 34 1,067 1,067 1 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu v5
17 38 961 961 1 High School Fleet v5
18 48 721 721 1 Masou Gakuen HxH v2
19 49 697 697 1 Kidou Keisatsu Patlabor Reboot
20 54 654 654 1 Ansatsu Kyoushitsu 2nd Season v8
21 61 586 586 1 Koutetsujou no Kabaneri v3
22 62 584 584 1 New Game! v2
23 63 573 573 1 91Days v1
24 69 488 488 1 ONE PIECE Characters Log: Robin & Franky & Black
25 74 460 460 1 ONE PIECE Heart of Gold RE
29 92 367 367 1 Gakusen Toshi Asterisk 2nd Season v5
30 95 59 353 61,820 17 Youkai Watch Movie 2: Enma Daiou to Itsutsu no Monogatari da Nyan!
96 349 349 1 Tanaka-kun wa Itsumo Kedaruge v5
111 294 294 1 Qualidea Code v2
190 159 159 1 Ange Vierge v1

Other releases (concerts etc)
20 1,593 1,593 1 Prince of Strike Alternative: Fan Meeting 2016 To Be Alive
43 7 822 14,489 3 Osomatsu-san Special Event Festa Matsu-san '16
46 753 753 1 Itou Miku 1st DVD Miku Tabi
51 673 673 1 Shokugeki no Souma Ni no Sara presents Oagari yo, Matsuoka-san!
57 613 613 1 Shokugeki no Souma: Oshokujidokoro Matsuoka Ni no Sara
73 461 461 1 Tsukipro ch. v2
81 5 413 3,115 2 Aoi Shouta Live 2016 Wonder Lab: Bokutachi no Sign
294 294 1 i☆Ris Kessei 4th Anniversaty lvie: foooour @ i☆RisTELLARTHEATER
190 7,461 5 Love Live! μ's Final LoveLive! μ'sic Forever♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪ Day2

2016 10/24 – 10/30 Anime BD List

Anime Rank All Rank Last Rank Week Sales Total Sales #Wks Title
1 1 45,815 45,815 1 Love Live! Sunshine!! v2
2 2 25,601 25,601 1 Meitantei Conan: Junkoku no Nightmare LE
3 3 13,353 13,353 1 Kubikiri Cycle: Aoiro Savant to Zaregototsukai v1
4 7 7,860 7,860 1 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu v5
5 8 7,234 7,234 1 Macross Delta v4
6 10 5,766 5,766 1 High School Fleet v5
7 11 5,447 5,447 1 Jojo no Kimyou na Bouken Diamond wa Kudakenai v5
8 12 5,284 5,284 1 Zutto Mae Kara Suki Deshita: Kokuhaku Jikkou Iinkai
9 13 4,923 4,923 1 New Game! v2
10 14 4,514 4,514 1 Koutetsujou no Kabaneri v3
12 16 3,802 3,802 1 Tiger & Bunny BD Box
13 17 3,554 3,554 1 Meitantei Conan: Junkoku no Nightmare RE
14 18 3,240 3,240 1 Mob Psycho 100 v2
15 19 3,234 3,234 1 Kidou Keisatsu Patlabor Reboot
16 20 3,017 3,017 1 Dangan Ronpa 3: The End of Kibougamine Gakuen v2
17 21 2,782 2,782 1 B-Project v3
19 23 2,588 2,588 1 Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya 3rei! v2
20 25 2,470 2,470 1 Tsukiuta. The Animation v2
26 2,410 2,410 1 Masou Gakuen HxH v2
27 2,271 2,271 1 Amanchu! v2
30 2,015 2,015 1 Kuroko no Basuke Winter Cup Soushuuhen v2
31 1,656 1,656 1 Rewrite v2
32 14 1,645 77,396 5 Love Live! Sunshine!! v1 LE
37 1,504 1,504 1 Bungou Stray Dogs v5
38 1,417 1,417 1 Gakusen Toshi Asterisk 2nd Season v5
40 1,220 1,220 1 Kono Bijutsubu ni wa Mondai ga Aru! v2
42 1,107 1,107 1 Servamp v2
46 962 962 1 ONE PIECE Heart of Gold LE
48 903 903 1 Anne Happy v5
49 890 890 1 Qualidea Code v2
53 810 810 1 Shokugeki no Souma: Ni no Sara v2
55 798 798 1 Hundred v5
56 786 786 1 Ange Vierge v1
57 659 659 1 Tanaka-kun wa Itsumo Kedaruge v5
58 648 648 1 Koukaku no Pandora v6
60 623 623 1 91Days v1
65 565 565 1 Ansatsu Kyoushitsu 2nd Season v8"
68 487 487 1 Maimai Shinko to Sen-nen no Mahou
73 433 5,138 37 Byousoku 5 Centimeters RE
75 392 392 1 ReLIFE v3
77 365 365 1 Sakamoto desu ga? v5
79 7 335 2,959 2 Flying Witch v5
83 19 304 1,156 2 Super Lovers v5
86 17 297 1,479 2 Netoge no Yome wa Onna no Ko Janai to Omotta? v5
92 271 271 1 Nejimaki Seirei Senki: Tenkyou no Alderamin v2
93 52 269 28,018 73 Kotonoha no Niwa
97 13 252 1,760 2 Bakuon!! v5
98 243 243 1 Hatsukoi Monster v2
126 172 172 1 selector spread WIXOSS BD Box
187 119 119 1 ONE PIECE Heart of Gold RE
214 103 103 1 Tonkatsu DJ Agetarou BD Box
260 82 82 1 Onegai My Melody Sukkiri♪
290 74 74 1 Taiyou no Shisha Tetsujin 28 Go BD Box v1

Other releases (concerts etc)
6 7,965 7,965 1 The Idolm@ster Million Live! 3rd Live Tour: Believe My Dre@m!! Live 01 @ Nagoya
45 975 975 1 i☆Ris Kessei 4th Anniversaty lvie: foooour @ i☆RisTELLARTHEATER
62 4 586 4,502 2 Aoi Shouta Live 2016 Wonder Lab: Bokutachi no Sign
64 12 579 11,267 3 Osomatsu-san Special Event Festa Matsu-san '16
66 29 552 78,187 5 Love Live! μ's Final LoveLive! μ'sic Forever♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪
224 63,213 10 Love Live! μ's Live Collection
165 4,490 5 Love Live! μ's Final LoveLive! μ'sic Forever♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪ Day2


Summer update:
91Days v1 sells 623/573, total 1,196. Event ticket. 1.4/21.7% overestimated.

Ange Vierge v1 sells 786/159, total 945. 71.6%/80.7% underestimated. Crushed its estimates, w-whoo… …;_; Well I didn’t expect it to do much of anything but it still sucks to see that number. I hope people are playing the mobage. ;_;

LL Sunshine v2 sells 45,815. BD-only release, event ticket. Down 31.5% on v1wk1.
v1 adds 1645, total 77,588.

B-Project v3 sells 2782/3055, total 5,837. Wooooah, I expected a drop but this just dropped off a cliff. 13.5k > 11.1k > 5.8k wk1s for v1-2. Suddenly this goes from a safe 10k lock to being a total toss-up. All depends on wk2+ now, and there’s no extended ranking to help it. We may seriously be down to only one 10k show between Spring and Summer combined.

New Game! v2 sells 4923/584, total 5,507. Down 14.7% on v1wk1. Ehhh, this is an event ticket volume too, so if the tail is as weak as it was with v1… yeah I’m honestly skeptical of even a 5k average.

Mob Psycho v2 sells 3240/1836, total 5,076. Down 10.1% on v1wk1.

Tsukiuta v2 sells 2470/1505, total 3,975. Down 11.0% on v1wk1.

Masou Gakuen v2 sells 2410/721, total 3,131. Down 15.7% on v1wk1.

Servamp v2 sells 1107/1911, total 3,018. Down 34.8% on v1wk1.

Dangan Ronpa 3 v2 sells 3,017. This is the combined Zetsubou/Mirai BD release. The separate DVDs didn’t rank this time either, unsurprisingly (everyone is going to want the combined BD releases).

Illya 3rei v2 sells 2,588 BDs, DVDs do not rank. Down 17.3% on v1wk1.

Amanchu v2 sells 2,271. BD-onl release. Down 11.2% on v1wk1. v1 never even got a wk2, RIP ;_;

Rewrite v2 sells 1,656 BDs, DVDs do not rank. Down 21.0% on v1wk1 (9.0% if just comparing BD to BD).

Konobi v2 sells 1,220 BDs, DVDs do not rank. Down 17.5% on v1wk1 (9.5% if just comparing BD to BD).

Qualidea v2 sells 890/294, total 1,184. Down 22.9% on v1wk1.

Souma s2 v2 sells 810 BDs. DVDs are being sold in a one-shot box in November. Down 5.6% on v1wk1.

ReLIFE v3 sells 392 BDs, DVDs do not rank.

Alderamin v2 sells 271 BDs, DVDs do not rank. Down 7.2% on v1wk1.

Hatsukoi Monster v2 sells 243 BDs, DVDs do not rank. Down 80.7% on v1wk1 (67.3% if just comparing BD to BD). That is a hell of a drop.

Didn’t rank in either format or make the Biz leak:
Ozmafia!! v1

Spring update:
Re:Zero v5 sells 7860/1067, total 8,927. For the first time Re:Zero didn’t increase on the previous volume’s wk1… but it was also only 180 down. 10k is still unlikely without a modest yearly list boost, but it’s sure making a serious run at coming very close.

Macross Delta v4 sells 7234/1195, total 8,429. Event ticket, though closer to the non-ticket v2 than the previous ticket v3. Still skeptical of a 10k average without a fourth ticket. Maybe even with.

Haifuri v5 sells 5766/961, total 6,727.

Jojo pt 4 v5 sells 5447/1219, total 6,666.

Kabaneri v3, final volume, sells 4514/586, total 5,100. Series average: 6,115. Well, above average but not a hit. Counts as a success in these dark times, I guess.

Stray Dogs v5 sells 1504/1527, total 3,031.

Asterisk s2 v5 sells 1417/367, total 1,784.

Tanaka-kun v5 sells 659/349, total 1,008.

Anne Happy v5 sells 903 BDs, DVDs do not rank.

Hundred v5 sells 798 BDs, DVDs do not rank.

Sakamoto v5, final volume, sells 365 BDs, DVDs do not rank. Series average: 407.

Flying Witch v5 adds 335 BDs, total 3,283.

Bakuon v5 adds 252 BDs, total 3,283.

Super Lovers v5, final volume, adds 304 BDs, total 2,045. Series average: 2,540.

Netoge v5, adds 297 BDs, total 1,745.

Past seasons:
Ansakyou v8, final volume, sells 565/654, total 1,219. Series average: 1,322. Down almost exactly by half from s1’s 2,627.

Pandora v6, final volume, sells 648 BDs, DVDs do not rank. Series average: 696.

OVAs, Movies, Boxsets etc:
Conan Junkoku no Nightmare Movie sells 25601/3554 BDs, 23733/8772 DVDs, total 61,660.

Zaregoto v1 sells 13353/2910, total 16,263. I figure this seems good! It’s a half price disc (also one ep discs, so it should be), so you need to figure that in, but considering Nisio’s name isn’t an instant ticket to sales (Medaka did nothing, Katanagatari was a modest 8.7k v1/7.5k average, Monogatari is down to about a third of its old peak) and this volume doesn’t seem to have an event ticket, this seems strong to me. If sales keep up it’ll be easily over 10k. Since it’s not airing on TV I’m not going to be including it in any of the usual lists, but I am tracking it on my spreadsheet as an OVA. So it’ll at least appear as an average on the OVAs chart of the Quick View page.

Zutto Mae sells 5284/5991, total 11,275. Not overly impressive but way ahead of estimates (53/98% underestimated) and probably not bad considering it’s not exactly aimed at a big anime-buying population (i.e. the teenage girls into Honeyworks’ Vocaloid stuff).

Tiger & Bunny BD Box sells 3,802. Honestly would have expected more from a series that sold 28,551 originally. Then again it has been five years.

Kurobas Winter Cup v2 sells 2015/1711, total 3,726.

Maimai Shinko to Sen-nen no Mahou sells 487 BDs, DVDs do not rank.

Wixoss s2 BD Box sells 172.


Upcoming Releases for 2016 10/31 – 11/06 Anime DVD List
2016/11/02 Fukigen na Mononokean v3
2016/11/02 Furusato Saisei: Nihon no Mukashibanashi – Hana-san ga Jijii
2016/11/02 Furusato Saisei: Nihon no Mukashibanashi – Kaugya-hime
2016/11/02 Furusato Saisei: Nihon no Mukashibanashi – Kobuto Jii-san
2016/11/02 Hakugei Densetsu BD Box
2016/11/02 Kiznaiver v6
2016/11/02 Magi Sinbad no Bouken v7 DVD RE
2016/11/02 Mayoiga v5
2016/11/02 Naruto Shippuuden: Itachi Shinden-hen – Hikari to Yami v1
2016/11/02 Regalia: The Three Sacred Stars v1
2016/11/04 Ameiro Cocoa: Rainy Color e Youkoso!
2016/11/04 Pripara Season3 v2

64 Responses to “2016 10/24 – 10/30 Weekly Sales List”

  1. BlackPoint says:

    Small typo for Re:zero at both bd and dvd table you wrote that its v6, while it is v5 as you wrote below with a desricption :)

  2. BlackPoint says:

    Overall a week with lots of drops and seems like b-project was festing of thoose event tickets and now that they are gonne it will only keep goin down wouldnt be surprised if that last volume wont even reach 5k.
    Re:zero is going at its own pace and it will be another close 10k sell, i gues a 9,5k average in the end should be well possible maybe with the extended rankings it would be a 10k seller.
    Also i really hope New Game wont have a big drop once the event ticket stops and can still manage a 5k average was really one of the best anime to watch in the summer but well we are in the trend where discs are selling less and less so anythin around or above 5k is pretty much a big success now…
    As for Kabaneri you say its a success in this times, can kinda agree and disagree cuz this one was literly riding the hype train of AoT due all that things it had said about it having same ppl working with it, lots of other similarities etc so personnaly i was expecting it to sell around 10k eas, so seeing this sales in the end and only 3volumes dunno really have mixed feelings. Cant wait for AoT s2 to come out and see if and how much of a drop in disc sales it will have.

    • something says:

      That was a very non-committal and slightly sarcastic “success” for Kabaneri. It’s better than most shows sell, but also not at all exceptional. And certainly not even in the same universe as Shingeki (not that it was expected to be). I doubt anyone on the committee is jumping for joy, and some are likely disappointed.

      • BlackPoint says:

        yeah i doubt they are happy at the committee with this sales iam sure they were expecting more since the release date of it also got pushed back so that the quality of episodes would be as best as possible, but ye its still better then most shows do. They better stick just with AoT and make sure we get the full thind adapted into anime ^^

      • Hahalollawl says:

        Not sure why Kabaneri seems to have such a strong perceived connection to AoT among some people. I get that the same studio and maybe some of the same people worked on it, but I thought it was already settled that same studio or staff doesn’t equate to same sales in anime discs.

        Anyways, I wouldn’t be surprised if the committee is quite pleased with the money from discs and streaming. Maybe I’m alone on this, but i wouldn’t be surprised if they made a lot of money from streaming and disc sales alone.

        Then you look at how sales have been lately for other shows and…yeah, not sure I feel sad for them.

        • something says:

          I think we’ve had this conversation before, but: Same staff, same studio, even a similar premise. Of course people connected the two. Now, expecting sales to be the same as the super-hyped adaptation of a million-seller manga would have been crazy, but certainly Kabaneri had [i]potential[/i] to be big, if they captured that same magic. But that didn’t happen. Instead they got an “above average” seller that seems to have been all but forgotten already outside of the occasional Mumei fanart.

          It’s not about saying Kabaneri was a “failure”, just like if Tourabu sells 15k it won’t be a “failure”. It’s just a matter of “Could it have done better?”, and the answer here seems like a yes, possibly. But it didn’t.

        • BlackPoint says:

          Ye they might made more money then others from streaming since amazon got exclusive rights to it, but as *something* said this anime basicly had the same ppl working on it, studio is same, zombies that became titans etc could keep goin on so yeah it had lots of things to compare to and usualy original stuff sells sometimes a bit better since there isnt any cheaper version to buy manga or LN so more ppl decide to buy the discs. So overall its hard to say if this was a success.

          • Hahalollawl says:

            Hmm not sure I agree with the claim that original stuff usually sells a bit better than adaptations. Do you have data to back that up, or is it just a general sense because you think people will buy the other (cheaper) stuff?

            • something says:

              I just pulled this from the Quick View page (so the data is about 2 weeks old, will update this weekend) and this is far from the most sophisticated analysis, but for the five main types of source material (the only ones with more than like, 5 shows each), Original has the lowest median sales. However it seems to have the biggest range as well. Excel just crashed and I don’t feel like re-doing the formulas but the standard deviation for original (if I used the right Excel function) was roughly twice that of the other types. 5-6k for those, 10k for original.

              So all anime is a risk, but original anime is especially likely to be either really low or really high. Obviously this isn’t the biggest data set in the world so how shows get categorized matters.

              • Hahalollawl says:

                That seems to fit with my general impression of originals as being the riskiest for committees, and also perhaps the most prone to busting.

                Are the novels mostly LN?

                • Generally so. Most of the light novel labels tend to be owned by a few companies (who were then bought up by the Kadokawa Group), that have been active in producing anime adaptations of said novels for greater visibility.

                  Occasionally, you’ll see actual novels get adapted, but they’re not exactly common.

                  • Hahalollawl says:

                    Shinsekai Yori is the one that stands out/comes to mind. Also Perfect Insider I think? Not sure if I’ve seen a novel (not light) adaptation that actually sold well though…

                  • something says:

                    Yeah, I don’t try to separate the two, I just lump them all together.

  3. uchiha madara says:

    I’m sad for MP100 drob,hope it’s at least reach 6.5k
    still re:zero doing so well,isn’t?

    • something says:

      10% is actually a pretty small drop between volumes, so this is about as expected. It’s also an event ticket volume, so it will drop more next time, but v1 ticket to v2 ticket with a 10% drop is not bad. Second tickets never have as much effect as first tickets, unless they’re for a different event (even then not always).

      Yes, Re:Zero is still doing well. May fall short of 10k, but still very possibly the best-seller of Spring. (Which says as much about how weak Spring was as anything else, but still…)

  4. Anon says:

    Nice numbers for Jojo.

    • BlackPoint says:

      Not really if you compare it to the previous season sales….

      • WGB says:

        Part 4 is one of the least popular parts in Japan (though it is supposedly Araki’s favorite), so it’s sort of to be expected. Part 3 doing so poorly compared to Parts 1&2 was the more surprising thing. Overall Part 4 seems to be doing pretty OK.

      • Anon says:

        I meant the quadruple six.

  5. Yaoi-Senpai says:

    I feel so bad looking at the sales of B-Project. >w<
    I knew the sales was going to decrease but not that much, last volume will sell so poorly. I'm sure of it. :(

    Hope we get a new season since most of the fans disliked the last episode.

    • NukaCoka says:

      The final arc of the plot was so anger inducing lol. What were they even thinking?

      I just want another season for more Kitakore, Thrive (goshin especially).

      Oh well maybe the cds will sell well.

      • Yaoi-Senpai says:

        Exactly, one of the reason why I didn’t like he show. I WANT MORE GOSHI HE IS MY LOVE.

        And if we got a second season, we will get a new character. They are known as “Killer king” can’t wait to know how they are going to join b-project. And ofc Yashamaru xD

    • AnimePhoenix says:

      Honestly, B-Pro just fell apart in the second half imo. And they completely turned Tsubasa into some wall flower. I did not like that at all.

  6. AholePony says:

    Zaregoto is really interesting. It’s like they are testing the waters for new models for releases. Episode 1 released only a few weeks ago right? With this method you are releasing discs right when the hype is high, along with the aforementioned 1/2 price disc. Wondering if we’re seeing how things will be in the future with the resurgence(?) of Anime theatrical releases and net anime. As we saw back in the transition to the current committee model, this industry has proven it’s willing to be flexible unlike the TV situation in the West which is so entrenched in it’s old ways.

    • hpulley says:

      Zaregoto is not the first one to try this. Strike the Blood had 2 OVAs which sold over 12K each, more than double what the TV show sold. So they decided to release season 2 as an 8 OVA series instead of a TV series. I guess they decided that the loss of streaming revenue was worth it.

      Goes in cycles. OVAs have been popular before.

      Anime movies are doing well now and…. what do you know, there’s a whole lot more coming! Too bad for us, usually means a long wait until we can see/buy it here.

    • something says:

      Not new, so much as going back to something very old. As far as I know, they aren’t planning to air all the episodes ahead of time. Maybe ep 1 got some special screening? I was under the impression the the episodes were being released straight to disc. I.e., it’s just an OVA – something quite rare these days outside of bonus eps or specials for TV series (and many of those eps air on TV too, or in theaters).

      • AholePony says:

        I didn’t mean literally new ways, I should have worded that more like we’re seeing more exploration into other ways to go about anime production and releases. The Strike the Blood comment is on point, and it’s far from the first but I hadn’t seen a release and disc so close to each other that I can remember, with episode 2 scheduled in a month I think(?), I thought they might just keep doing this. I also thought I read somewhere this was going to be an ONA, but if it’s just OVA then that changes everything that I was thinking they were doing here.

        • AholePony says:

          Ok did some reading, looks like I was on drugs about the whole ONA part. As something said though, it is interesting it’s a true OVA which have become so rare these says in series form.

  7. jeni says:

    Hi may you happen to know berserk sales?

    • something says:

      I don’t track full 3DCG shows on this site, as they don’t meet my criteria of being anime. But since I’m sure I’ll get more questions, I’ll just note that it sold very badly, only 803 copies.

  8. Gatmar says:

    I have noticed a few things in how the industry has been changing these past year or so.

    One is the increase in the Cinema Movies department…a lot of franchises even ones you would no normally expect have been getting a movie announced recently..also it is proving to be quite a successful approach..you have the intial release revenue from the profits of the cinema and the sales of the blu ray discs and with a shorter running time but higher animation budget ..you are both getting a higher quality series and an increase in profit sales than you would get from selling a full tv series.

    The other is the re-emergence of the Ova market…meaning we are now getting full series released in ova format rather than as a season anime..like for example Zaregoto, Strike the Blood and the classics such as the new Tenchi Muyo (ryo-ohki) series.

    One more trend is the increase of older classic series getting either new material adapted,,remakes or expanded universe content, even after all the gaps in years they were last shown.

    IT seems to me like the market is trying to recycle old models of selling materials while at the same time trying to adapt modern approaches to them in order to perfect them. i don’t know wheater that is a good thing for improvement or it shows the industry is stagnating so much that it is desperatly looking back in order to survive modern trends..what do you think?

    • hpulley says:

      You’re right that none of these are new. Anime was released in OVA format for most of what would have been late night anime in the ’80s and ’90s, even into the 00’s. Only real mainstream toys-supporting anime ran on TV and it generally ran until the toys stopped selling well. Movies aren’t new either, nor are remakes. ONA isn’t new either but it does seem like another one we’re seeing more of lately, series going to ONA first and then a TV run or just ONA to discs.

      Let’s face it, disc sales are down. Businesses must adapt, evolve or die. I’m not sure if they are trying what worked before or if these are new business models. I don’t know if they are just experimenting at this stage or if some have already figured it out. Frankly I’d be more worried if they WEREN’T trying anything with disc sales swirling the bowl right now.

      It kind of sucks for us as it either means long waits, illegal options only or buying blind as many ONA, OVA and movies don’t come over here at all or come out months or years later once they are licensed. And sometimes they only come out with dubs (GaruPan der Film, I’m looking at you, dub only why??? But I bought the BD already so I don’t really care).

      • something says:

        The one development that is genuinely new is film adaptations of late night anime. Well, “new” as of 2010 anyway, but it’s just not something we saw to any serious extent in the late 90s or the 00s even though we had late night anime then. It’s probably also been the most successful of the strategies.

        Like you’ve said before, not really ideal for many of us. Films take forever to come out on disc, almost never get legal streams, and require lots and lots of difficult spoiler dodging. Still, we continue to get a ridiculous number of TV series so it seems more like they’re adding or expanding these other methods without reducing TV output.

        • hpulley says:

          Agreed, it isn’t like I have nothing to watch though I still don’t like to hear, “You have 48 shows you can watch so don’t worry about the 2 you can’t watch.” But those 2 may well be the 2 I most wanted to see!

          The late night movie trend is good if it’s working for them but man, I wish they’d get their film distribution model out of the ’80s. There is this thing called the internet… where information spreads quickly. Why can’t the release the film globally on the same day? I know, it is because the Japanese believe there is no point unless then can get full marketing machines revved up in each location first but we don’t really need that. We know about the film. The BD import is already available. It’s been ripped and fansubbed and it still isn’t in the theaters here and they wonder why no one is buying tickets. So frustrating.

          Not quite related but I’m currently pleading with the fan club of a seiyuu I really like so I can get her live BD and first single. When the account create page had no option for foreign addresses I knew I was doomed but I emailed them about it anyway. She used to sell her stuff everywhere but now she doesn’t list it on Amazon or any retailer I can use. Not enough sales to stay listed? Trying to avoid the middleman/wholesale costs? I don’t know why but it is very annoying wanting to buy something and being told no, we can’t handle overseas sales at this time… unless I want to use a proxy or hope someone puts one up for auction. Please take my money!!!

        • AholePony says:

          It makes you wonder just how stubborn they will be with BD prices, how depressed do the sales need to be before they adjust them? I guess we’re only tracking late night anime here so maybe in the grand scheme of things they have little incentive to lower prices. You’ve got to figure all disc sales are down though.

          • something says:

            It’s hard to measure, but there’s no evidence I’ve seen that lower prices would help. The vast majority of fans of any given show simply are not interested in owning it on disc. If disc prices were cut in half, sales would increase. But they’d need to double just to break even with current revenue totals.

            Are there even twice as many potential customers out there for your average show? It seems extremely unlikely to me.

            The future isn’t in cheaper discs. It’s in things that aren’t discs at all. It’s in shifting the focus from monetizing ownership to monetizing viewership. This is why Crunchyroll became so successful even as R1 home video companies were scaling back or collapsing entirely. It happened to music (it’s happening even in Japan where customers have stuck with discs longer than elsewhere) and it’ll happen increasingly so to video.

            Discs will continue to get made for a long time. The most devoted fans with the deepest pockets still want to own those LEs. But aiming for raw sales volume with the super-ultra-niche that is 98% of late night anime is not the way forward.

    • Gatmar says:

      The thing is that we are going trough a vase of another media form change. much like how we switched from vhs to dvd in the late 90’s to early 00’s and than switched from dvd to br’s in the late 00’s. Now a lot of people are content to watch things and pay for them as they air and don’t invest as much in buying physical copies and even in japan it is starting to kick in that disc sales are declining.

      Much like how books are not as big sellers as they were lets say 40 to 50 years ago before the invention of home entertainment..it still exists but only for the collect market these days. I think that br and dvd will eventually be moved into this route..meaning higher prices and less of them being readily available.

      Personally i hope that physical media remains somewhat relevant in the future, cause if they switch to complete digital and streaming…what is to say something comes up that will no longer be available to find. for example..not net..no power..main source of said medium ceases to exist..i rather have a physical copy for the shows i most like as a form of security, insurance and everlasting record for me to watch and read.

      • hpulley says:

        Kids these days don’t know what to do with themselves if the internet or power goes out. Read a book? No thanks, they say. Watch a disk? Play a non-net game? They look at me funny. I actually look forward to a holiday off the grid to make a tiny little dent in my unread book pile… though I used to read way more before I had 20-40 anime/week and a bunch of games to play myself (one net required but the other net free).

        I too buy discs as streaming licenses don’t last forever. People seem to forget this. Sometimes other companies rescue the licenses but not always. I am glad that I’ll be able to watch the shows forever (I still watch my VHS tapes, should really buy a backup player, otherwise I may need to find one in a garage sale or auction).

        • something says:

          Internet yes, but if the power goes out you aren’t watching any BDs either! But regarding internet outages and streaming licenses, this is why I always download a stream rip of every ep I watch just as a backup. It’s exceedingly rare I end up using them, and by the time I decided to rewatch there’s going to be a BD version available, but it’s still a very useful safeguard.

          • Gatmar says:

            By power i ment that without it you can still read a book as a lot of manga and ln are also starting to get digital only release too. if u dont have the net …you can turn back to just watching the bds or dvd and if u have no net and power than u can still read a book. i am just higlighting that a lot of people today..especially the new generation that grew up after the mid 00’s era have no idea how much the net and power is being taken for granted and could easily be gone by the turning of a switch if they are not careful. so they should not rely on streaming and net games as their only source of entertainment.

            • something says:

              I prefer not to fault anyone for taking advantage of the technologies that have become ubiquitous and relied upon in their lives. Can get a little curmudgeonly. I’m probably older than most people posting here, and I too have little of interest open to me with the internet out and virtually nothing with the power out. I don’t factor “what would I do in the event of a catastrophe” into my day-to-day entertainment purchasing decisions and I think that’s pretty normal.

          • hpulley says:

            I still prefer physical books as I only read Japanese and I find computer fonts are more difficult to read than a good print version (though as I get older I may need reading glasses or even a magnifier to read some manga, may need to move exclusively to novels which have a constant, readable print size). You don’t need power to read a book and you can read it on an airplane for those times when they ask that all electronic devices are turned off. And… Amazon JP won’t sell me Kindle editions anyway but they will gladly ship me the books (for as much shipping as the book costs sometimes).

            I don’t DL any anime. If the internet is down and I want to watch anime then I’ll rewatch some of the discs I already bought… many of which I’ve only rewatched once so I feel pretty silly about buying them sometimes. I buy to support first, to collect second and to watch third so even if I never watch them I have #1 and #2 covered but I still feel I should rewatch them at least a few times in my life. The rare day when my provider is out for a day and I don’t feel like burning some mobile on it, I get a chance to do some long overdue rewatching of my discs. I don’t need subs so the raw discs are perfectly fine for my purposes so I don’t need the rips.

            I was annoyed that the Viewing service Aniplex uses is, of course, Japan only. Kizumonogatari I should let me legally download a copy but it works only if I fool it with a VPN, just like their Koyomimonogatari app. The rest of the app worked, but not the videos. Aniplex… sigh.

            I buy some PSV games and the ones I buy are all no-net-required so I’m fine there if the net is out. As long as my PSV has some power I can play for a few hours anyway.

            Doomsday anime scenarios? Some people love to start “What anime would you watch if the world was ending tomorrow?” threads but I would probably be doing something other than watching anime in that sort of situation.

            • AholePony says:

              You did touch on one issue, that the younger generation hasn’t quite been around long enough to see IP completely disappear or become very hard to get a hold of. They just haven’t experienced the sadness you get when you want to watch that old thing you loved and you simply can’t, even via illegal means because the old torrents are dead. There are games like the No One Lives Forever series that are only available via illegal means or tracking down out of print copies and doing some work getting windows to let you run it. Hundreds of anime fall into this category of course, shows never licensed in the west. There are also recent (good!) anime series that never get picked up for streaming at all in the west and in turn never get western releases on disc.

              Not to mention to a snob like me BD is VASTLY superior in quality to the best streams. I do think the streams are catching up fast though as far as quality is concerned, I do stream all of the seasonal anime after all…. but having K-On in all it’s BD glory is totally worth it to me.

              • hpulley says:

                Disney putting stuff “back in the vault” is probably the closest thing they’ve experienced yet, along with my son being disappointed when the Lego Universe MMORG was cancelled after just a year of operation. R1 anime is probably the easiest place to experience the loss of IP what with so many companies going under and many rescue license acquisitions sitting unused.

                The family wanted to watch The Lord of the Rings on Netflix the other night and I said, “No, we have the Bluray boxed set downstairs, we’re watching that!” Of course I had to go and get the box and put it in the player while Netflix is just a few button presses away… but I’d much rather watch it on Bluray than the higher compression of even the most bandwidth hogging settings on Netflix. Sadly, the only anime they’ll watch with me is Pokemon.

                Anime BDs confuse my new 4K TV however, the upscaling and motion “improvements” work well for regular shows but do awful things to anime so I have to turn most of them off. I still prefer watching on my old Plasma instead when possible, speaking of dead things (Plasma can’t do 4K let alone the new 8K NHK has created so it is a dead tech now).

  9. makotachi says:

    Ouch, that drop for B-Project. I was expecting one, but I was hoping it wouldn’t be that large of one. Hopefully next week it can take on some more sales. MP100 is holding onto a decent amount of sales so far. Atleast it’s doing okay.

    All that I’m really going to be paying attention to now is the Fall season since it looks like finally disc sales will finally break through the curse of this year. I’m mostly excited to see where Yuri on Ice and Touken Ranbu will land. Haikyuu and UtaPri are already basically guaranteed success, so I’m not too concerned with their sales.

  10. Ejc says:

    Sales vs Overall Ranking from Oricon Biz here: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4845120873?pn=8.
    I’ve cross referenced from the Oricon website, and some of the Anime’s sales can be deduced, that weren’t already in the original Oricon Biz leak from 2ch. These are:

    126 *,172 「selector spread WIXOSS」BD-BOX
    187 *,119 ONE PIECE ~Heart of Gold~ Regular Edition
    214 *,103 Tonkatsu DJ Agetarou Complete BD-BOX
    260 *,*82 TV Anime 3rd Season “Onegai My Melody Sukkiri♪
    290 *,*74 Taiyou no Shisha Tetsujin 28 Go BD-BOX Vol.1

    111 *,294 Qualidea Code Vol.2
    190 *,159 Ange Vierge DVD-BOX Vol.1

    Everything else released from October 24 to October 30, i’ve posted on the MAL thread:

  11. varnish says:

    I have a question about Dangan Ronpa 3’s DVD sales relative to BD. The first volume didn’t make it to 130, and if I’m reading Ejc’s data correctly, the second volume was under at least 160, while the BDs are in the 3000-4000 range. You noted that the combined nature of the BD make it more attractive, so I checked Amazon.co.jp to see the prices and release schedule. After the ~25% discounts offered there for both, owning all the DVDs would save about 7700 yen (~$75), with the downside of missing extras, waiting an extra two months, and having a lot more discs to store. I see that disparities between BD and DVD are normal, but this is such a difference that it seems like the DVD release scheme was an epic fail. Does that sound like a fair assessment, or do they not really care?

    • something says:

      It’s common for DVDs to be about ¥1k cheaper than BDs per volume, so a ¥7700 gap between formats (¥7,444 is the precise gap in tax-excluded MSRP terms) across a two cour series is actually a slightly smaller difference than usual. So there’s nothing strange about its release from that perspective. Getting less extras and waiting a little longer to complete it is probably the main reason DVD is selling almost nothing. That and DVD just being the lower quality option.

      I really don’t think they expected anyone to buy the DVDs, just like nobody is expected to buy REs when those exist.

      • hpulley says:

        The rental market, whatever exists of it, is or was DVDs. They certainly wouldn’t want the LE BDs and most of them were “rental kinshi” anyways. So perhaps a barebones DVD offering would still make sense for the rental market, if it still exists in Japan.

  12. Mami Kawada Lover says:

    >91Days v1 sells 623/573, total 1,196. Event ticket. 1.4/21.7% overestimated. BDs are from an early Biz leak posted on 2ch yesterday. Its other numbers check out so it’s legit.
    Well, that was better than I expected. Back when it began solicitation it seemed like it wouldn’t even sell 500 discs total.

  13. Mami Kawada Lover says:

    By the way, where’s Qualidea Code v2?

  14. something says:

    Full ranking list, untranslated txt file on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ZwqfwvNp

    Just put the untranslated in for now. I’ll update this post by tonight.

  15. ExtraLm says:

    Isn’t D-GrayMan s2 v2 comes out this week? Also can’t found v1. Or these two aren’t ranked :S.
    And if i am not mistake, there should be a Oregairu OVA, which is sale with VN game, comes out these week.
    Sry for my bad English and my amator-ish questions.

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