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2017 10/09 – 10/15 Anime DVD List

Anime Rank All Rank Last Rank Week Sales Total Sales #Wks Title
1 2 4 2,679 12,061 2 Meitantei Conan Movie 21: Karakurenai no Love Letter RE
2 3 2 2,391 16,215 2 Meitantei Conan Movie 21: Karakurenai no Love Letter LE
3 5 17 2,035 322,989 12 Kimi no Na wa. RE
8 17 19 1,032 25,345 5 Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni
11 22 20 794 21,865 3 Sword Art Online Ordinal Scale LE
12 24 24 723 9,008 3 Sword Art Online Ordinal Scale RE
13 25 21 716 6,617 3 Kuroko no Basuke: Last Game RE
14 33 25 514 13,511 3 Kuroko no Basuke: Last Game LE
15 43 65 426 106,391 170 Tonari no Totoro (2014 re-release)
16 50 82 390 14,054 11 Doraemon: Nobita no Nankyoku Kachikochi Daibouken
18 224 224 1 Kakegurui v1
19 217 33,150 156 Tenkuu no Shiro Laputa (2014 re-release)
21 200 47,146 168 Majo no Takkyuubin (2014 re-release)
22 191 14,020 8 Granblue Fantasy The Animation v5
24 179 17,952 87 Gake no Ue no Ponyo (2014 re-release)
25 179 2,558 3 Natsume Yuujin-chou Roku v4
29 151 9,566 59 Doraemon: Nobita no Himitsu Dougu Museum (re-release)
121 121 1 Net-juu no Susume v1

Other releases (concerts etc)
35 498 498 1 All Out!! The Stage (stage play)
180 2,304 3 Love Live! Sunshine!! Aqours First LoveLive!: Step! Zero to One Day 2
101 952 2 Shimono Hiro Birthday Live Even 2017: Running High

2017 10/09 – 10/15 Anime BD List

Anime Rank All Rank Last Rank Week Sales Total Sales #Wks Title
1 5 7 2,746 96,498 3 Sword Art Online Ordinal Scale LE
2 9 4 1,623 14,886 2 Meitantei Conan Movie 21: Karakurenai no Love Letter LE
5 12 1,374 1,374 1 Uchouten Kazoku 2 v2
6 13 30 1,186 269,261 12 Kimi no Na wa. RE
7 14 22 929 18,977 3 Senki Zesshou Symphogear AXZ v1
8 16 8 846 4,811 2 Meitantei Conan Movie 21: Karakurenai no Love Letter RE
9 20 29 732 12,354 3 Sword Art Online Ordinal Scale RE
10 22 24 695 19,856 3 Kuroko no Basuke: Last Game
11 23 690 690 1 Kakegurui v1
12 24 37 674 27,731 5 Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni RE
14 29 549 549 1 Action Heroine Cheer Fruits v1
15 34 45 467 6,719 3 Princess Principal v1
17 41 74 394 4,371 3 BanG Dream! v5
18 42 376 376 1 Gakkou Gurashi! BD Box
52 64 282 28,808 5 Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni LE
53 43 277 11,636 3 Kubikiri Cycle: Aoiro Savant to Zaregototsukai v8
59 118 253 110,925 12 Kimi no Na wa. LE
93 236 194 4,609 7 BanG Dream! v4
95 161 192 140,532 12 Kimi no Na wa. LE (4K UHD)
98 28 184 1,743 2 Tenshi no 3P! v1

Other releases (concerts etc)
8 15 1,759 32,837 3 Love Live! Sunshine!! Aqours First LoveLive!: Step! Zero to One
27 584 584 1 All Out!! The Stage (stage play)
65 112 236 26,202 5 THE IDOLM@STER Side M 2nd Stage: Origin@l Stars (Complete Side)
68 268 232 21,505 20 Walkure Live 2017: Walkure ga Tomaranai at Yokohama Arena
127 1,447 3 Love Live! Sunshine!! Aqours First LoveLive!: Step! Zero to One Day 2
113 1,281 2 Shimono Hiro Birthday Live Even 2017: Running High

 

Fall update:
Net-juu v1 sells 121. 53.3% overestimated. Terrible of course, because who is going to buy a DVD in 2017 of a show that has only aired 2 episodes? Even at this disc’s super low price (¥2400). Hell the disc came out the day ep 2 aired so you’d only have seen one episode at best if you preordered it! This release is amusing in its novelty but also kinda dumb as hell. Anyway there’s a BD coming, but it’s a set that will be released in December.

Summer update:
Kakegurui v1 sells 690/224, total 914. 33.7%/44.0% overestimated. Event ticket.

Cheer Fruits v1 sells 549 BDs, DVDs do not rank. 26.6% overestimated. Event ticket.

Symphogar s4 v1 adds 929 BDs, total 21,325. With that it passes s1v1’s 20,943. Now having a better v1 doesn’t mean having a better average (see Konosuba s2 for example) but it’s certainly a good sign.

Pripri v1 adds 467 BDs, total 6,934. Solid wk3, this has some decent legs. Odds we see v2wk1 open higher than v1wk1 (then have a shorter tail) are pretty good.

Tenshi no 3P v1 adds 184 BDs, total 2,097.

 
Past seasons:
Uchouten s2 v2, final volume, sells 1,374. The first volume was reported separately between Amazon and normal releases, but this one seems to have combined them back into one, the more usual approach. First volume being split was presumably just a glitch.

Granblue v5 adds 191 DVDs, total 33,934.

Natsume s6 v4 adds 179 DVDs, total 5,888.

Bang Dream v4 adds 194, total 4,609 in wk7, meaning it added 307 in wk4-6.
v5 adds 394, total 4,371.

 
OVAs, Movies, Boxsets etc:
Gakkou Gurashi BD Box sells 376.

SAO Ordinal Scale adds 2746/732 BDs, 794/723 DVDs, total 139,725. That moves it ahead of Haruhi Shoushitsu as far as late night films, but that’s likely as high as it’ll go. K-ON! is 166,340 and then it jumps all the way to 185,545 for Madoka Hangyaku, before we get to the two 230k+ films (Garupan and LL).

Kurobas Last Game adds 695 BDs, 514/716 DVDs, total 39,984.

Zaregoto v6, final volume, adds 277 BDs, total 13,761. Series average: 16,727.

 

Upcoming Releases for 2017 10/16 – 10/22
2017/10/18 Boku no Hero Academia 2nd v4
2017/10/18 Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai BD Box (season 1-2)
2017/10/18 Frame Arms Girl v4
2017/10/18 Kagaku Ninja-tai Gatchaman BD Box
2017/10/18 Keppeki Danshi! Aoyama-kun v2
2017/10/18 Little Witch Academia v7
2017/10/18 Sakura Quest v4
2017/10/18 Shinzou Ningen Casshern BD Box
2017/10/18 Touken Ranbu: Giden Akatsuki no Dokuganryuu (stage play)
2017/10/18 Yoake Tsugeru Lu no Uta
2017/10/18 Yoru wa Mijikashi Arukeyo Otome
2017/10/18 Yowamushi Pedal New Generation v7
2017/10/18 YuuGiOu VRAINS v1
2017/10/20 Hibike! Euphonium Movie: Kitauji Koukou Suisougaku-bu e Youkoso

20 Responses to “2017 10/09 – 10/15 Weekly Sales List”

  1. Ayumi says:

    “Kakegurui v1 sells 690/224, total 914”

    So sad. This was so good.

    • Tuna says:

      Anime companies ought to just make the costs of rights so much that they can at least break even based on the international and domestic streaming rights. Companies clearly dont seem to mind throwing millions at the rights holders.

      Always weird when accalimed series seem to do abysmally on these charts.

      Though I guess not many people wanted to meet and greet their favorite kakegurui characters at the event.

      • something something says:

        The last thing we should want is another unsustainable licensing bubble, which is what your suggestion would almost inevitably create. When the last licensing bubble popped in the mid 00s, that crushed the western physical disc market for years, and didn’t help Japan in the long run either. The Japanese anime industry is just now getting back to its ~2006 peak again, and international licensing is a big part of that… but not if the the companies providing anime with that international audience become unprofitable.

        Charging enough for streaming licenses to cover all production costs would cripple anyone except for Amazon and Netflix, and they have zero vested interest in anime for its own sake. Netflix is only interested in a handful of titles to begin with, and most of Amazon’s anime comes via Sentai, one of the smaller players who would be crippled.

        So I’d be strongly against committees significantly hiking up streaming license costs. We’d see a lot less anime streaming, it’d all be coming from the companies that suck the most, it which would lead to the revival of fansubbing, and the whole streaming experiment would be over. International streaming (particularly North America and East/Southeast Asia) is part of the equation, but it can’t be everything.

        (I’d also be very wary of an anime market entirely dependent on non-Japanese tastes for its continued existence!)

        • Felipe says:

          I like to question something,

          Kakegurui sels 914 copies, i saw ann, crunchyroll staff and anime staff members claim that dvd/bd sales are not the MOST IMPORTANT THING in anime to be profitable, Kakegurui selling 914 copies doens’t mean that Kakegurui is a failure right? Because the anime have many others revenues right?

          and another question, streaming services in japan pay to have that anime in their site right? Or the companies behind the production of the anime that pay for streaming sites for exibit their anime?

          Thank you

          • something something says:

            Correct, DVD/BD is just one revenue source among many. Low DVD/BD sales are never a good sign, but they are not inherently fatal. What’s important to consider is that every anime is funded by multiple companies, each of which have different (if sometimes somewhat overlapping) interests. There is often a video disc publisher (wants to sell DVD/BDs), a print publisher (wants to sell manga/novels), and a music label (wants to sell music). Various other companies get involved as well, each looking for their own ways of recouping investment and making a profit.

            So a show that sells poorly on BD but has very popular music, or provides a huge manga boost, may be successful for some committee members, but not necessarily all. Gakkou Gurashi for example didn’t have amazing disc sales but gave the manga a massive boost. The manga publisher (Houbunsha) probably loved it but the video publisher (NBC Universal) probably saw it as average at best.

            As far as streaming goes, I think it’s more complicated in Japan. Some streaming services are connected to TV stations, some are run by members of the production committee, some are standalone like Niconico. But unlike TV, where buying broadcast slots actually costs the committee money (unless the TV station is on the committee I guess), the committee should make money from streaming services, as far as I know. Whether they actually pay a licensing fee to the committee or just pass along a cut of advertising/subscription probably depends on the exact nature of the streaming service, who runs it, and what if anything their connection to members of the committee is. I don’t know what the most common arrangement is though.

          • Sylver says:

            I figure the Kakegurui anime was mostly used to boost the sale of the manga. It’s actually quite similar with many LN adaptation, the BD sale is actually not as critical as long as the LN/tank sale got an increase. Kakegurui has been selling ~100k/vol for quite a while, if this increases for the next few months then the anime would actually be a success.

            • something something says:

              Did any new volumes come out since the start of the anime? If there’s a big boost, it should be evident there already if so. Of course with so many manga sales going digital now, and Oricon print reports being so bad for anything that sells less than a couple hundred thousand per volume, it can be extremely hard to determine if a manga got any boost at all.

              • Sylver says:

                How bad the book sale record actually is though? I know they severely underestimate a lot of stuff (due to the limited number of stores), but sometimes seeing the circulation number 4,5 times the number recorded on Oricon I can’t help but wonder if the publisher also ramp up this number to make some series look good also.

                • something something says:

                  If there are any good reasons to believe that the publishers are lying about shipment numbers (which is doubtful) a private sales tracking company coming up with lower numbers is definitely not one of those reasons. It’s much more likely that Oricon is simply not very good at tracking print sales, particularly in an age where digital is a significant chunk of the market.

                  Always trust publisher numbers, where available, over Oricon.

  2. Anonymous says:

    >Uchouten s2 v2, final volume, sells 1,374
    ;_; Kill me

  3. Tsurumaru says:

    How should we interpret SideM’s pre-order numbers right now? Even with four event tickets announced (for two separate events), its ranking still seems very uninspiring. Not that I was expecting much in the first place – for male idols, Idolish7 next season will be the big one to watch (along with A3 and Ensemble Stars whenever their anime come out), that could potentially come close to or rival Utapri – but even then, SideM still seems to be underperforming expectations. It’s looking a lot more like B-Pro than Symphogear at this point, which for an Idolmaster franchise doesn’t seem very encouraging to say the least.
    Doesn’t look like its singles/albums are getting a sales boost either – a new Original Pieces (mini album) just came out this week and it seems to be performing about in line with what it did pre-anime. We haven’t gotten any updates as regards to mobage download numbers too, SideM hasn’t hit 1 million the last time I checked (A3 on the other hand has hit 4 million DLs even though the game’s barely 1 year old), so on that front it doesn’t look too optimistic for SideM as well.

    • something something says:

      ::shrugs:: Too early to say. I can’t say it’s under- or over-performing expectations without knowing what the expectations were. Animate is going to be tough to keep track of this season since there’s so many series ranking there throughout the week and they only do a top 50. I’d also wait a little longer before looking for bumps in other media, since only two episodes have aired.

      • Tsurumaru says:

        Don’t you mean 3 episodes? I don’t see why you wouldn’t count Jupiter’s special episode, Episode 0’s DVD/BD even has an event ticket bundled with it. How many more weeks would you give the anime then? The fanbase for a series like this one should be pretty well-established so if they’re not biting even with the event tickets announcements then I’m not sure what would convince them…?

        • something something says:

          I was thinking 2 because the Jupiter disc won’t count in the anime’s average, but yeah 3 eps then.

          Like I said, it’s all about expectations. The v1 (not Jupiter) estimate on Stalker is just under 9k right now and it wouldn’t be too strange if it doubled that in actual sales. If you go into this expecting 30k average like Animas and Deremas then yeah I’m pretty sure you’re gonna be disappointed. But when I’ve been asked about what’ll sell 10k this year, I never put Side M as more than “has a chance of averaging 10k”. I’d never considered it as a sure thing. Just wait and see how it does. But honestly, I don’t think we need to worry too much about Side M’s profitability.

          I do wish everyone wasn’t so eager to label shows as doomed as soon as a season starts. If you want actual doomed/dead on arrival shows, just look at the shows I usually import! (RIP Konohana Kitan, you are a perfect execution of exactly what you want to be, but people were never gonna give you a chance.) I’ve already gotten a bunch of questions lamenting the death of Osomatsu-san and I’m just, like, chillllllll, whatever happens, happens.

          • Tsurumaru says:

            Osomatsu san is ranking quite well on animate though. And an important distinction between that and SideM is that Osomatsu san’s event ticket (or tickets) hasn’t been announced, so for something like that I’d agree we’ll have to wait and see, just like with Symphogear and its event ticket. You can’t say the same for SideM though, not proclaiming the series dead or anything but I do believe its numbers at this stage (across all media) could use a little more scrutiny.

            • something something says:

              “but I do believe its numbers at this stage (across all media) could use a little more scrutiny.”

              To what end, though? Nobody has any idea what its potential sales are (for example it’s not a sequel so we can’t point to a previous season), nor do we know how it’ll shake out in reality, so whether one is disappointed or satisfied is just based on arbitrary personal expectations. I really just don’t think there’s anything meaningful that can be said at the moment. It’s ranking “well” in a general sense, and will almost certainly outsell a large majority of the anime that come out this year (after all, that doesn’t take much!). Whether that’s “enough” isn’t objectively measurable.

              At the very least we should keep in mind that male idols is a genre with only one major disc sales hit *ever* (Utapri). Second place is B-Project at 9,603, so not even 10k. We can’t translate that into an exact expectation for Side M, but I do think it should at least temper expectations.

          • AnimePhoenix says:

            With how disc sales have fallen in this past year, for me, even doing ~10k for a show I like is a miracle. If it does ~3-4k, I’m satisfied.

            I like SideM so far and if it does nearly 10k, great! But if it does ~7-8k, that is also great.

            And I feel you, something. When a show you love so much does so badly (Konohana Kitan), it’s so painful. ;_;

  4. something something says:

    Updated with the full list.

  5. Gururu says:

    Since I was desperate enough when I see Kakegurui BD/DVD charted in 2nd week in top 300 but doesn’t make the cut in the published list for week after this, I find a way to guess it exact current estimate using seiyuu profile work list BD and DVD ranking published on oricon site (they only ranked top 100 sales) and using the old extended ranking for workdate before 2016/05 to estimated when I see its BD above Ansatsu Kyoshitsu S2 v1 who got a number of 829 and its DVD above Hanayamata v2 DVD who have 261 so I think we can say that Kakegurui v1 sells 829/261 total 1,090 after w2

    Seiyuu bd/dvd ranking I used is Tanaka Minami (田中美海)
    https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/608407/rank/blu-ray/

    I know it is small number but I just want to see it passed 1k, what do you think?

    • something something says:

      Yes, you can use that as a bit of mini-extended ranking. However, for my own record-keeping I need to stick with the data that makes it into the regular reports. I don’t want to be inconsistent in adding bits of data for a handful of discs but not others.

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